Recruits are shown how to stow a hammock - date of photograph unknown. Peter Ohara. Reaching high into the sunlit sky stood the mast; its yardarms spread wide like a giant crucifix. HMS Ganges was a training ship and later stone frigate of the Royal Navy. The only thing I can remember of that awesome night, apart from collecting a kit bag and filling it to capacity with kit, was sobbing myself to sleep and that I ate the biggest meal I'd ever eaten in my entire 15 years of life. HMS Ganges (1821) This page summarises records created by this Organisation The summary includes a brief description of the collection (s) (usually including the covering dates of the. Ken Smith, who now lives in Brighton, sent me memories of arriving at HMS Ganges in the severe winter of 1963 and his fear of the dreaded mast. I knew that once the weather was respectable, when it was no longer dangerous, my skinny little skeleton would be transported, step by trembling step, up that perilous rigging. ", The boys climbed the mast whenever the base received high-status visitors, and as part of their training (Image: HMS Ganges Museum). Yes indeed, they were the best of times and the worst of times. in the RN with the nickname Doc. [1] She remained in service at RNTE Shotley until October 1976. David Colwill. Not to the required half-moon, but to the first platform, where, when authoritative eyes were averted, I dashed to the other side and climbed back down.. inaccuracy or intrusion, then please last entry 16.30 We are also please to welcome visitors at any other time by prior appointment - please telephone 01473 788315 or 01473 788723 to arrange this. The kindly chef asked me whether I intended to eat the mountain of food I'd heaped on my plate or climb it! Each of us was required to construct a printing block using letters carved in wood. It had been HO (Hostilities-only) traing during the war. Unfortunately HMS Ganges is no longer there apart from a few buildings and what is left of the mast. HMS GANGES MUSEUM. It would seem those boy-sailors who were seconds ago shoving sausages into smiling faces, had all disappeared into that terrifying building, and by the cries belching from its belly were being eaten alive. After eating I dashed down to the boat sheds to report for my test. Our abuse contact API returns data containing information belonging to the abuse contact of every IP address on the Internet. "Boys came into Ganges at age 15 and went into the navy as men at 16. A planning application for the site was submitted and outline permission was granted in 2015. Welcome to our next documentary, investigating the decaying remains and iconic abandoned swimming pool of HMS Ganges Royal Naval training school, as well as . ", HMS Ganges as a warship (Image: HMS Ganges Museum). They faced what was without doubt the most severe punishment, cuts. A historic Grade II listed former Royal Navy training mast has been taken down ahead of restoration work. "Most of what was on the site went to the naval museum in Portsmouth, but we have the honours board and figurehead from the original ship. It was hoped that Developers Haylink Ltd would start work early this year, but their plans were scuppered by the Covid-19 pandemic. "They had a hard life, but they were fed and looked after. (LogOut/ He had the misfortune to be placed under the care of two particularly brutal and drunken instructors whose continual bullying and abuse proved too much for this emerging free spirit, . Roe told me "I don't like you." The noise was excruciating. www.amazon.co.uk/H-m-S-Ganges-Dozen/dp/0906418003/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1269273975&sr=1-1, www.navy-net.co.uk/Forums/viewtopic/t=134/postdays=0/postorder=asc/start=0.html, www.veterans-uk.info/vets_badge/vets_badge.htm. (LogOut/ He went on to be an SD subby. I just got on with it. The cinemas would be packed with rows of Ganges boys in uniform and the caf at the corner of St Stephen's Lane would sell them many cups of tea as they waited for their bus back to Shotley. From it came bloodcurdling cries of command, so frightening that I most surely would have obeyed them myself, if had I understood what they meant. Researched and compiled by A. S. Grimmer (Solent Division) who sadly crossed the bar 6th January 2007. Change), You are commenting using your Twitter account. "I remember another of the Ganges boys, they were talking to a visitor at the museum, and she said 'it was quite brutal, wasn't it? Speaking about the current state of the site, Mr Jones said: "All of the messes have been demolished, as have the laundry and the generators. On his 15th Birthday he was sent, with 2000 other boys, to the notorious HMS Ganges training establishment at Shotley Point where a harsh regime held sway. Tony Hayden. The HMS Ganges training base, which opened in 1905, closed in 1976 and has remained derelict. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. I joined up in 1968,three years after my brother, he hated it I was one off the sad ones that loved it, even the kit musters on the mast! I joined Ganges 30th June 1955 also as a boy telegraphist. Ganges training establishment. Contents 1 Foundation and early history 1.1 Allegations of abuse 2 Ganges at Harwich 3 Ganges at Shotley 3.1 1906 changes 3.2 Later developments 3.3 First World War 3.4 Post war developments 3.5 Ganges in the Second World War 3.6 Postwar and closure 4 References 5 External links As a subscriber, you are shown 80% less display advertising when reading our articles. At about 60 feet was the Devil's Elbow, the most dangerous and frightening part. Dave Walton RN retired. The Admiralty decided that the shore base should bear the name of the original training ship, HMS Ganges. JavaScript is disabled. It was at Shotley Point that the wooden ship HMS Ganges was berthed from 1899, and used as a cadet training ship for the Royal Navy. I allowed my head to tilt backward, sending my gaze to the very top, to the lightning conductor where the Button Boy stood on ceremonial occasions. These adverts enable local businesses to get in front of their target audience the local community. . He was sentenced at Portsmouth Crown Court. Well this seems a good time to see if this site works properly. 1976. The master at arms held a long thin bamboo cane, the instrument of the punishment. Every letter, every strip of tape had to be in a perfect line. Its really difficult to give a definitive time scale but once things get going I would imagine that progress will be very visible whereas a lot of the work going on over the past two or three years hasnt necessarily been seen by the public.. 1905 - 1976 contact the editor here. they said. HP10 9TY. and I got seven days 9s. In attendance was a senior officer, medical officer and the master at arms. Create a free website or blog at WordPress.com. The Cattlemarket area of Ipswich would be busy at weekends with boys in full naval uniform. The site was closed in 1976 and was used as a maaried quarter estate by the RAF. . 2023 BBC. They looked like what we didn't, sailors. AboutPressCopyrightContact. However lessons, culminating in a test, were much more difficult. He was sitting on a stool and told me to stand in front of him and begin. Maurice was nothing to do with HMS Ganges, in fact he had been a crew member of HMS Hambledon. She was based alternately in Falmouth, Harwich (from 1899) and Shotley (from 1905). ", The honours board from the HMS Ganges, showing the victories of all the Royal Navy ships bearing the name (Image: HMS Ganges Museum). Mast erected using the foremast of HMS Cordelia, which was broken up 1904. The boy was made lower his trousers, but kept is underpants on, he was made to bend over a chair. HMS Ganges organisation of meals - covering the galley in the Long Covered Way/messdeck dining, and the introduction of the CMG block /communal dining - dated 1952. c. Punishment of Juniors (U) at HMS Ganges dated 1970. d. Restrictions on the caning of boys as a punishment dated 1929-1931. Who would have believed us, this was 1955 words like pedophile and sexual abuse were unheard of. Rumour had it many years ago a boy did fall, bouncing off the safety net and through the Post Office roof. Steve Tarr. Charles Dickens might have penned it the best of times and the worst of times. Probably running away was the worse decision, they were always caught and returned to the camp. October, new Shore Establishment created and commissioned as Royal Navy Training Establishment, Shotley. Standing at 143ft, the mast is made up of three main parts; the main 75ft mast came from HMS Cordelia, a steam corvette built in Portsmouth, the top mast of 47.5 ft wooden ruffle box from HMS Agincourt, which was renamed HMS Boscawen, and then Ganges II. and for those of you who served at ganges and who have't joined the association go on..nothing to lose and you'll find a lot of old shipmates there!! HP10 9TY. H.M.S. Some 100 boy-sailors were in the canteen, chewing and chattering; clattering knives forks and spoons against plates and bowls. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The HMS Ganges site was initially opened in 1904 acted as a boys training facility for the Royal Navy. Ganges Museum is located at Shotley Gate near Ipswich, in what was the Enright Block, on the foreshore of the former H.M.S. The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites. It had to be a joke! Dec 30, 2016. Such a tragedy that this historical place has been left to rot. This site uses cookies. You are using an out of date browser. He was an Electricians Mate Class 1 and served in, 12/03/35-09/01/36 HMS Ganges. The mast was erected in 1907 for boy entrant training purposes using the lower foremast (steel) from HMS Cordelia (1881) with other sections from the mizzen mast of HMS Agincourt (1865). One lad, a Geordie, was drafted early to a Destroyer bound for the Mediterraniann sailed from Plymouth He was washed overboard on his first few hours at sea..His parents never knew of the misery he suffered at Ganges. Picture: SARAH LUCY BROWN, Artist's impression showing the view across a residential street at the redeveloped HMS Ganges site in Shotley Gate. HMS Ganges was a training ship and later stone frigate of the Royal Navy. Offenders, known in the Navy as "defaulters", were mustered every morning and went before the Captain for a formal hearing, where they could be "awarded" up to 12 "cuts" -- very hard strokes of My instructors were Nobby Clarke and Ted Roe. It was named after a pre-existing training ship by the same name that was launched from Bombay and based at Shotley. On the remainder of the command 'Bayonets' the left hand pulled the bayonet from the scabbard, placed it on the barrel of the rifle and, with a quick twist of the wrist, secured it in place. I had already taught myself to swim. View of the iconic mast at the former HMS Ganges site in Shotley Gate. HMS Ganges being broken up after training was transferred to the land base at Shotley (Image: HMS Ganges Museum). I did climb that mast. She remained in service at RNTE Shotley until October 1976. Martin Foster was treasurer for veterans who served at HMS Ganges training base in Sufffolk. HMS Ganges is situated on the Shotley Peninsula in Suffolk. Some boys were home sick, some just tried to stay out of trouble, one or two ran away. 2023 BBC. She was based alternately in Falmouth, Harwich and Shotley . Yes, I got it wrong! This website and associated newspapers adhere to the Independent Press Standards Organisation's In the first week of January it was snowed even harder and it snowed until March. The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites. Martin Foster, 54, of Haig Road, Uxbridge, had already admitted two charges of fraud by abuse of position. In 1907, its famous training mast was erected on the parade ground. Heard so much about HMS Ganges though and it sounded very good for developing 'real sailors ' but as much as I hate to admit it I suspect it would have been too much for me . Attempts have been made to contact developers Haylink Ltd but have been unsucessfull. Two other ratings are recorded as 'drowning' whilst on the books of HMS Ganges and both were in 1944. Harry and Meghan told to 'vacate' Frogmore Cottage, Explosive found in check-in luggage at US airport, Fungus case forces Jack Daniels to halt construction, Rare Jurassic-era bug found at Arkansas Walmart, China and Belarus call for peace in Ukraine. We were ushered in as a group of naked boys and told to wash thoroughly. Did my intro to Pusser at HMS Raleigh in ' 52 . Outbreak of World War One. I told him "I don't give a flying feck!" The greatest fear was of messing up, this meant the whole class was punished. Now i know why! CPO (OPS) (EW) Served from 1966 - 1991 Served in HMS Ganges. To get out of the showers we had to stand before our instructor legs apart arms raised for inspection. This portion was taken from the foremast of the corvette Cordelia which was paid off . HMS Ganges was a "stone frigate" or land-based institution for the Royal Navy, and between 1905 and 1976 was one of the key training bases used to prepare sailors to defend Great Britain. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Below are just some of our members who have served at HMS Ganges. HMS Ganges was also known as Shotley Training Establishment . Sailors' uniforms were a familiar sight in our area until HMS Ganges closed in June 1976. After sewing on a tag and sporting a proud smile as I offered it up for inspection to that gorilla-of-gunner, I was sent scurrying away, ears ringing from slaps and vehement words, asking myself, 'How the hell did I mange to sew the tag on upside-down?'. It had been HO (Hostilities-only) traing during the war. Like lots of other boys I ran away from home when I was 14 yrs old and joined the Royal Navy as a Boy Seaman 2nd class. contact the editor here. Roger Jones, chairman at the HMS Ganges Museum said: "HMS Ganges was originally a ship of the wooden wall, launched in 1821. Network 157.90../16 Abuse Contact API. Those ads you do see are predominantly from local businesses promoting local services. Change), You are commenting using your Facebook account. A Gannett Company. During the third disastrous week, it spent so much time on the deck I thought I might as well leave it there! I wrote this song a long time ago. The next six years passed with regular naval detentions, ( Royal Naval Detention Quarters RNDQs Portsmouth) exhausting punishments, solitary confinements, ending with a twelve month sentence in the infamous HMP Corradino, Malta. I wondered, sewing, perhaps! This was the job of the button boy at HMS Ganges who had to shin up the last fifteen feet or so to climb on the button during ceremonial parades. HMS Ganges closed on June 6. There was a way to bypass it for cowards like me, but God help you if you tried using it. Crowds of boys from HMS Ganges would visit Ipswich when they were given a day off from the harsh naval discipline at Shotley. For breakfast porridge was on offer, that salt-coated gruel I'd been forced to eat every morning of my schoolboy days. These adverts enable local businesses to get in front of their target audience the local community. Picture: SARAH LUCY BROWN (Image: Archant). Sad to see such an establishment close as it was so full of history and meant so much to so many. 4 reviews When Peter Broadbent entered HMS Ganges, the toughest training establishment for young recruits to the Royal Navy, he was a naive 15-year-old Yorkshire schoolboy, entranced with the idea of seeing the world, proud of his drainpipe trousers and DA hairstyle, and eager to meet girls. This website and associated newspapers adhere to the Independent Press Standards Organisation's He would lay on the number of cuts prescribed, each cut raised a welt on the boys buttocks. The facility remained there until its closure in June 1976, Initially, training continued to be carried out on the vessel, but after the completion of a shore-based facility at Shotley, the ship was sent to be broken up. Those ads you do see are predominantly from local businesses promoting local services. Picture: CLAGUE ARCHITECTS (Image: CLAGUE ARCHITECTS). But, because of the lockdown nothing has really moved and I think, even though construction workers havent leagally been told theyre not allowed to do anything, the owners are a bit reluctant to move. She was established as a boys' training establishment in 1865, and was based aboard a number of hulks before moving ashore. HMS Ganges. Former recruit John Youngman said it would be "nice to see it restored to its former glory". Our kit was stowed in small silver lockers that we polished daily, but not like any normal person would stow their clothes. HMS Ganges was a training ship and later stone frigate of the Royal Navy. Im here as my Son (15) wants to join the RN - Wellbeck route AIB soon. Through the year the training was intense, probably a good thing, it gave us little time to regret joining the navy. attempted to climb to the top of the mast, Harry and Meghan told to 'vacate' Frogmore Cottage, Explosive found in check-in luggage at US airport, Fungus case forces Jack Daniels to halt construction, Aboriginal spears taken in 1770 to return to Sydney, China and Belarus call for peace in Ukraine, Rare Jurassic-era bug found at Arkansas Walmart. Please Login or Register. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. 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If you have a complaint about the editorial content which relates to The inquiry was carried out by Hampshire Police after debit card transactions of 4,200 and cash machine withdrawals totalling 74,000 were made from the association's bank accounts between August 2010 and June 2012. Picture: CLAGUE ARCHITECTS, Independent Babergh District councillor for Ganges, Derek Davis. 11.00 to 17.00 Saturdays, Sundays and Bank Holidays between Easter and the end of October. Newsquest Media Group Ltd, Loudwater Mill, Station Road, High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire. RM B54PCM - Twiggy the baby elephant was half an hour late for her appointment to 'tow of the premises', the 47 year old Captain Derek Napper Napper, skipper of HMS Ganges the naval training school at Shotley Suffolk, and found she had been replaced by a couple of horses. As a matter of interest how many of you did your 22 and beyond not many I suspect therefore you look back with nostalgia, fcuking hated the place and made certain I never treated any of my guys the same as the youngsters were treated there. Report . While I was going through the various calls I felt his hand slipping up the back of my shorts. Mr Youngman, who joined the navy aged 15 in 1965, said he had previously climbed up to the top of the mast but "couldn't wait to get back down". Allegations of Abuse. First the older of the two, Maurice WRIGHT JX 657902. Report abuse. Statistics for the 1930s indicate some 200 official canings per year in HMS Ganges alone, an average of four per week. On the parade ground the order went something like On the command fix! The left hand went behind the cheek of your left buttock and twisted the bayonet and scabbard upward. This was the job of the button boy at HMS Ganges who had to shin up the last fifteen feet or so to climb on the button during ceremonial parades. So as I have said already, we kept our heads down aiming for that final day when wed be drafted to a ship. Were you at HMS Ganges? She was based alternately in Falmouth, Harwich (from 1899) and Shotley (from 1905). For spite I think, because it wasn't compulsory. HP10 9TY. Free (donations towards running costs are welcome) The skipper was HS McKenzie who went FOSM. July 5 The old HMS Ganges sails out of Harwich Harbour. Jon Sparks. joined in '63 Dreadnought in the Annexe and Duncan in main camp, Went swimming at Vincent before colling-grad got its pool, and sailing if my memory is not totally shot, I sometimes considered climbing to the top of the mast a tossing myself off. the reason i remember the date is that it was my 15th birthday, We got shipped out to Suez in October 1956 cutting short our training by a couple of months. This page is dedicated to the memory of Tony whose commitment to the Royal Navy and especially HMS Ganges was unlimited. Sadists most of them and that's from a 15 year old who was in a council care home before he joined, streetwise to fcuk and kept my head down. Drake 39 mess At least the cubicles in the heads had doors on this time. There were stories of many similar violations but none ever reported. I came across a clip on youtube that really saddened me and it tells its own story about the UK as it is now and the real fact that such things as pride, standards etc have long been lost and decay and neglect are the order of the day, I do not need to walk very far from my home to see with my own eyes the evidence all around me. Independent Babergh District councillor for Ganges, Derek Davis. Abuse Details. The mast has been a local landmark since it was erected a century ago this year at the end of the Shotley peninsular. During Ganges's time in Cornwall allegations of harsh and brutal treatment were reported to the Admiralty.One wardroom steward shot himself over the matter, and the reports aroused indignation in the local community. While I probably believed the stories, I was still determined to quality for my chain. However, for most of us boys, qualifying meant we could wear the Bosuns chain with our uniform instead of a lanyard. Boys normally signed up to a contract of 12 years, which would leave most of them aged in their late 20s after their tours. There was one hell to come, the Ganges mast! From the top of the mast, its a long way to come ! later times). He was fondling my right cheek as I tried to concentrate on pipping. If you have a complaint about the editorial content which relates to 1927. Artist's impression showing the view across a residential street at the redeveloped HMS Ganges site in Shotley Gate. Read about our approach to external linking. 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By creating an account you agree to us emailing you with newsletters and discounts, which you can switch off in your account at any time. contact IPSO here, 2001-2023. His early life was hard by any standards. One person found this helpful. Welcome Guest. The showers usually took place at the crack of dawn, summer or winter we ran from the barrack towel around our waist to the showers. Each time I let it go off it popped, falling to the deck with a clatter. Newsquest Media Group Ltd, Loudwater Mill, Station Road, High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire. Old men on the HMS Ganges Facebook page and it helps keep alive my time spent there. The mast has been a local landmark since it was. This punishment was something I never witnessed and can only describe from what other boys told me. The 142-foot high (43 m) mast was erected in 1907. H.M.S. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Today lots of those instructors (JIs and Badgeboys included) would be in front of the beak for various abuses, harassment and bullying. Review of a book of anecdotes about legendary UK boys' naval establishment HMS Ganges, which at any one time housed as many as 2,000 trainee sailors in their middle teens. Ganges Tales of the T.R.O.G.s Paperback - 22 Nov. 1995 by John Douglas (Author), John Wheatley (Illustrator) 6 ratings Paperback 12.00 8 Used from 8.90 H.M.S. LEADING SEAMAN Served from 1961 - 1970 Served in HMS Ganges. However, in the meantime we were still at the mercy of our instructors. The former treasurer of a naval veterans' organisation has been jailed for 18 months after nearly 80,000 was withdrawn from its accounts. She remained in service at RNTE Shotley until October 1976. The previous evening I'd arrived at HMS Ganges training annexe, with an assortment of other would-be-sailors, and was placed in the capable hands of a spotty-faced junior instructor and a bullet-proof gunnery instructor who wore crossed guns on both lapels. "We're hoping that we can get some of the money back from him, but we don't know if that's going to be possible.". Royal Navy 238217 Boy 2nd Class HMS Ganges II. Sad to see such an establishment close as it was so full of history and meant so much to so many. Babergh District councillor Ganges, Derek Davis, said: From my own personal perspective I have seen how closely our officers and our planning team have worked with the owners of the site and I can imagine that once the lockdown is over and the guys get started, progress will be made very quickly. At Gagnes they spent 12 months training, and they learned everything you need to do to run a ship. We had no one to confide in, our instructors would more than likely told us not to tell tales. 1905 to 1976 saw 150,000 recruits pass through HMS Ganges. HMS Ganges 'He had the misfortune to be placed under the care of two particularly brutal and drunken instructors whose continual bullying and abuse proved too much for this emerging free spirit ' His early life was hard by any standards. You are using an out of date browser. Commander was Trick and a good egg. Editors' Code of Practice. It began snowing on Boxing Day. Was anything in this navy free from fear? The overall height is 143 feet 10 inches, with the button being 11 inches diameter and 3 inches thick. Real posh supercilious bastard. Read about our approach to external linking. Mr Davis added: They have had the last conditions, including the fire hydrants agreed. She had taken on the previous duties from the wooden ship H.M.S. Picture: CLAGUE ARCHITECTS, Aerial artist's impression of one of the green spaces earmarked for the former HMS Ganges site in Shotley Gate. It was hard, often . Crowned on June 2, 1953, at the age of 25, Elizabeth II went on to have the longest reign for a British queen. Frederick "Ben" Rodgers author of "Lily & Me", "The Royal Navy & Me" and collector of Rover automobiles, Review from Newfoundland CraigChurchill. Work on the scheme, which would see 285 new homes, a 60-bed nursing home, a large retail space and areas for medical services, will not be started until a spine road through the site, which will take the bulk of construction traffic away from main roads, is built. It. Ronald Carr. Developers Wavensmere Homes and Galliard Homes plan to build almost 300 homes on the site and include a restored mast in the development. It was a facade hiding unknown treasures unknown tricks for us to perform, the first of which was to mark our kit with our names. 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